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From: "jim" <>
Subject: Re: [ADAMS-L] unnecessary criticism
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:29:57 -0800
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It seems that this list is degenerating into unnecessary criticism of others
instead of just seeking and exchanging information about genealogy. So I
shall follow the correct proceedure in my next post and unsubscribe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janean Ray" <>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: [ADAMS-L] Subject lines and message boards
> I just wanted to say something here before this gets out of hand. I get
> aggravated when subject lines are not changed as well. EVERY list and mb
> does the same thing. No one reads anything or follows directions. How
> people have you seen try to unsubscribe and don't know how. Or ask to be
> taken off the list. Because they don't follow directions. How did they
> subscribe in the first place...duh! If they read the e-mail that was
> sent to them when they subscribed, they would know how to unsubscribe,
> the archives TO SEE IF THEY ARE STILL SUBSCRIBED. That drives me nuts.
> Test e-mails. If everyone went to the archives to try to FIND something
> look at all the repeated subject lines no one would do this anymore. But
> Nancy and Ali have learned, no one reads and no one changes subject lines
> and no one reads the archives to see if they missed anything. No one
> how to contact the list administrator about problems, etc. No one knows
> to request a list of all the boards/lists you are subscribed to. They
> push buttons and ASK, am I still subscribe? If everyone could see the
> that clogs up the archives while trying to search for "real content" they
> wouldn't do this anymore. Wheeeewwww. Ok I climbed off my soap box. As
> clogged up the archives. And the worst problem is no one can see
> inflections in your voice through typing so what one writes is always
> subject to criticism and debates. I have learned it is just best to not
> respond and mind my own business unless it is directed at me. As I just
> "didn't" do.
> Sometimes ya gotta get things off your chest. Now back to your regularly
> scheduled program!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alli" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:54 PM
> Subject: [ADAMS-L] Re: an issue that needs to be addressed....Please read
> > I addressed Nancy message privately, but want to mention a few things
> > here.
> > I asked not only for Nancy but for other's that had a complaint send
> > their complaint privately. This obviously wasn't done here.
> > To let anyone else who is lurking or new here know that (& I am not
> > yelling) I DO NOT CONTROL/RUN/ADMINISTER THE ADAMS MESSAGE BOARD. I
> > have any control of what get's posted on it or how the subject lines
> > or don't change. I see the messages the same as you do.
> > I have seen several people replying to a message board message
> > when the only way they can get a response from someone who posted to the
> > is by contacting that person (who's email does show up) or by clicking
> > the link for that specific message, otherwise its just those of us on
> > that will see the reply.
> > It was stated below that I offended Nancy by suggesting she follow her
> > advice & change the subject line (which she had not, not in the first
> > complaint nor in her reply), I explained (privately) that her message of
> > changing the subject line will or can cause even more complaints which
> > don't need.
> > She pointed out that she didn't realize it was from the MB.......many
> > don't, but please make sure you read the whole message & notice where
> > from.
> > I apparently offended her in my response, which was not my intent (its
> > easy to assume an attitude of some kind in email). I was merely
> > out what she did wrong & what she needed to do to change it.
> > If anyone has a complaint about what is posted on the MB (of any list
> > just Adams) go to that MB find the Admin. link & talk to them directly.
> > every list owner is able to run the MB of the same name (it'd be nice).
> > A person's mood will have an effect on how they perceive a message to
> > written. As I mentioned (privately) to Nancy, I wasn't offended, wasn't
> > meaning to offend, wasn't mad, wasn't being rude.
> > Post your tree's (especially those who are lurking) as you never know
> > else is lurking "waiting" for their family to show up on the list.
> > Merry Christmas to those who Celebrate it
> > Have a Safe Holiday to everyone......stay safe & warm
> > And Prayers are on the wind for everyone to find the missing branch in
> > their tree (I have several)
> > Alli :) <One other thing.....any time you see a :) that means I'm
> > smiling, I'm in a good mood & I am not mad or upset in ANY way> :)
> > From: "Nancy Denis"
> > > Alli.....
> > > The comment I made has been posted repeatedly in the past. Without
> > censure
> > > I might add.
> > > A. I purposely did not change it as the folks I was addressing were
> > > ones on that line.
> > > B. I am sorry, I didn't realize it was from the board. I have taken
> > > skipping over it and didn't follow the whole thing. I just don't
> > > miss any connections to my ancestors.
> > > YOU could have been a little more tactful in your response, I am
> > offended
> > > by your attitude ie: So to follow your own advice (& post
> > me
> > > not to the list.....Thank you) :) Post the family--names that you
> > > searching for.
> > > Put the whole name (Martha Malinda Adams) their birth info. if you
> > it
> > > (1838 Tn.) where they came from & ended up if known (Tn, Mo, Ark,
> > > Did this go out to the list???
> > > Perhaps I wrote something to offend, which I don believe so, but YOU
> > > represent we bystanders and you need to be more careful about how
> > come
> > > across. YOu usually come across much better than you did here.
> > > Still sitting in the background 5 years later.
> > >
> > > Nancy Denis
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