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From: "goldie and Lido Doratti" <>
Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] illegitimate children
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:06:32 -0700
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The mother to the female child lived with her parents on their croft, and
her parents were witnesses to baby's baptism. She was raised by her
father's parents......he lived and worked at their croft. I suspect both
were needed by their families to work on their own crofts. But what
surprises me is that the little girl spent her childhood with the paternal
grandparents. It is as if she existed and the maternal grandparents
recognized that by being witnesses to the baptism......yet it looks like she
didn't really belong to them. Just odd how things turn out. Goldie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Johnson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] illegitimate children


> *** Goldie - There are a couple of points here which make the story
> slightly obscure.
> 1. Did the mother live with her own parents or was she living elsewhere?
> If she was living elsewhere, that may have been her place of work, where
> she "lived in" as part of the contract, and of course the baby would not
> be allowed to remain there with her. Her parents may have been unable to
> cope with the baby, and so the father's parents took that on.
> 2. "her parents were witnesses to the baptism". Is this the mother's
> parents, or the child's parents - you don't say whether it was a boy or
> girl.
> 3. The parents do not baptise the child, it is the clergyman who does
> that. Only in emergencies, if the baby looks likely to die, can a
> non-ordained person perform a baptism that would be acceptable to the
> church.
> Sorry if I seem pedantic!
> Gordon.
>
>
> On 22/06/2010 23:20, Goldie wrote:
>> Just to add to this thread. I have a case where a child was born to a
>> woman
>> "in fornication" who lived with the paternal grandparents and was raised
>> by
>> them. There must have been a reason for that, but ironically her parents
>> were the witnesses to the baptism. Sometimes things just 'don't wash' no
>> matter how we turn them over in our minds.
>> Why would they baptise the babe but turn it away to be raised by the
>> other
>> set of grandparents?
>
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