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From: Family Tait <>
Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Re: [MORAY] What's in a name
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:43:16 +1200
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Ruth,

Do you have any information about a John GRAY b. c.1745. He had a daughter
Janet GRAY b.1771 in Methlick. Janet m. James GORDON on 14 June 1795 in
Monquhitter; she died 30 April 1860 at Middlemuir. Janet and James had a
number of children.

Robert Tait

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth MacGill" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:14 PM
Subject: [ABERDEEN] Re: [MORAY] What's in a name


>I am interested in the Gray name as my grandmother was Williamina Gray and
>her father William Gray farmed at Belnagouk Methlick. Do have any
>information on that family. I would be grateful.
> Ruth
> In message <0af801c5afc2$31633a70$>, Ray Hennessy
> <> writes
>>Hi there again, peigi
>>
>>Our GRAYs are confirmed back to John GRAY
>>born 13 Aug 1782 in Monquhitter.
>>His wife [marriage date not found] was Janet GEDDIE
>>She was born about 1799/1800 in Old Meldrum.
>>
>>They lived in Cairngall, Longside - he was a grieve.
>>John died at Cairngall in 1874 aged 92.
>>Janet died at Tiffery, Longside in 1885, aged 85.
>>
>>So, all based in north Aberdeenshire as far as we know.
>>
>>Any good?
>>
>>Ray
>>
>>Copied to ABERDEEN List in case it raises a contact.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "peigi mulligan" <>
>>To: <>
>>Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:53 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MORAY] What's in a name
>>
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> I knew it! We are somewhat connected!
>>> The Grays came over here a long time ago, and a good friend of mine, Don
>>> Donohue, also a piper, now in his late 70's, is a descendent. He is also
>>> a
>>> local genealogist, and has done work on his Gray line.
>>> When I get hold of it, I'll pass it along to you.
>>> Peigi
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy"
>>> <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MORAY] What's in a name
>>>
>>>
>>>> William Innes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Under what circumstance were boys given more than one name.
>>>> > As an example, the name Alexander, is it possible that he may
>>>> > have been given the name William. What other name would be
>>>> > more closely associated with Alexander?
>>>> >
>>>> > To be more specific, the area in question , would be Glen Livet,
>>>> > Inveravon Banff and the date would be about 1775.
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Hi William
>>>>
>>>> There's been no reply to your query, so I'm going to jump in.
>>>> I'm by no means an expert [especially re Glen Livet] but I am
>>>> interested in names, as you might have noticed.
>>>>
>>>> As with all questions about names, there are many answers.
>>>> Here are a few I've dreamed up, applying to boys and girls:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The aristocracy and other social leaders often used several
>>>> names for their children. I imagine this was partly to preserve
>>>> name sequences down the generations and partly to honour
>>>> the married-in ancestry, e.g maternal parents & grandparents.
>>>> 2. If the mother died in childbirth and the naming pattern was
>>>> important to the family, the child might be given all the
>>>> remaining names.
>>>> 3. Some names form a familiar couplet, e.g. "Mary Jane".
>>>> 4. There could be a family-based middle name always used.
>>>> 5. There might be a need to "honour" a second benefactor.
>>>> 6. In some areas there was the habit of adding the surname
>>>> of the maternal grandmother as a middle name for a girl
>>>> and of the paternal grandmother for a boy.
>>>> [My wife has a middle name of "Gray" for this reason.]
>>>> 7. There could be an up-rushing of national pride and the
>>>> name of a ruler or other "hero" could be included.
>>>> And so on.
>>>>
>>>> If you are asking "Is there some special, local reason for
>>>> naming a boy 'William Alexander ...' in Glen Livet?" then
>>>> I'm afraid I have no idea. Perhaps one of the experts in
>>>> the internal workings of LibIndx could help you.
>>>>
>>>> Libindx has 235 people with these two forenames but, on
>>>> a quick scan, they all seem to be late 19th & 20th century.
>>>> I don't know if there is more info in there, but it might
>>>> point to a famous son of Glen Livet [lucky devil!].
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck
>>>>
>>>> Ray Hennessy
>>>>
>>>> Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net
>>
>>______________________________
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