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From: "John P Pate" <>
Subject: Re: [11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION] 11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION Digest, Vol 2,Issue 10
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:31:17 -0500
In-Reply-To: <000e01c8012d$75e61c30$5fd1d942@Irene>


I don't suppose you have any pictures of any of the Spaight's Battalion
Holmes - before, during or after the war?


Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
One died for your soul
The other for your freedoms
God Bless Jesus Christ and the American Military

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Yes, Much information on HOLMES family in Newton/ Jasper Counties, TX
Joseph W., Thomas, and WHJ (Buck) HOLMES are all three buried in the Trout
Creek Cemetery, Newton Co., TX. Do not know where Claiborne is buried, but
possible at the old home-place? as he was killed in the woods there in a
"freak" accident while hunting hogs.(died Dec 20, 1869)
Joseph died of Pneumonia after crossing the Sabine River holding on to
the tail of his horse as it swam across...think they were being chased by
"cattle rustlers" from my grandfather's story. Anyway, Joseph had built his
home on the Texas side of the River on land that his father-in-law ( Henry
BIVENS) gave Emily as their wedding gift. Joseph ran his cows on the
Louisiana side of the river and was just returning from a cattle drive to
New Orleans. He rode up on the rustlers camp as they were slaughtering one
of his cows and he drew his gun.. They chased him to the Sabine. After
arriving home soaking wet in the dead of winter: the older son, Charley;
watched his parents count out the gold coins from Joseph's saddle bags, and
put in baking-powder cans. Joseph buried the baking powder cans in the
woods the next day , but he was running a high fever and went to bed and
died without telling Emily where. ( died 20 Jan 1889)
I have a tape of my grandfather, Joe HOLMES re-telling the story as it
was passed down through the family. It was also printed in the Jasper
Newsboy History section several years ago.
Joseph W. HOLMES married Emily J. BIVENS on Jan 20, 1870 in Newton, Co,
TX ( Marriage Records Index "D" 105 ) Children of Joseph W. HOLMES and Emily
BIVENS from Newton County Census of 1880; Vol. 25, ED 54, sheet 14, line
45 ; Just. Prec. 4.......
and from grandfather Joe HOLMES...
Charles (Charley) A. Holmes born 1872 Old Salem Community, Newton Co.,
TX....my gr- grandfather...
married #1. Josephine WHITTMAN ; #2. Docia WEST died March 27, 1953 buried
Trout Creek Cemetery.
Adria A. ( Female) born 1873 md. Samuel SPEARS Augustus A. born
1876....died as teen-ager of a high fever Belva "Belle" (female) born 1877;
married Joel Dryer McMAHON
Joseph M. born 1879 died young with high fever..
B. HOLMES born 1884 married Belle MOSIER and shot to death sitting at his
supper table in Orange, TX Nov. 23, 1908.
Matt HOLMES born 1885 married Ruby PETERSON; died of Tuberculosis in San
Angelo Sanitorum May 4, 1926.
Ida HOLMES born 1887.....living in "west" TX operating " boarding house"?...
Ben HOLMES born 1889...married Rendy ROFF...killed when stabbed by Albert
Hamilton at New Year's Party...died Jan 1, 1917.
Joseph W. was the son of Thomas "Major" HOLMES and Elizabeth ODOM
born 13 Mar. 1844 in Jasper Co., TX.,...Newton Co. was created from eastern
half of Jasper in 1846.
Thomas "Major" HOLMES was the son of Thomas Charles"Goldie" HOLMES and
Elizabeth JOURDAN.
He served as a delagate for Bevil Municipality to theTexas Consultation of
1835 and as 1st Chief Justice
for Newton Co., TX
Thomas Charles was a Rev. War veteran and is buried in Newton Co., TX
...nears old Farrsville where the original plantation once stood. There is
a Histoical headstone there....( in the woods now).
I will work on sending you a photo of the Soilder's Discharge for Joseph
W. HOLMES....some words are difficult to make out.
Irene Walton Nacogdoches
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> 1. Re: 11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION Digest, Vol 2, Issue 9 (Joe Walton)
> 2. Re: 11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION Digest, Vol 2, Issue 9 (John P Pate)
> 3. added another web page (John P Pate)
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> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:53:45 -0500
> From: "Joe Walton" <>
> Subject: Re: [11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION] 11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION Digest, Vol
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> I have a photo of the Discharge paper of my gr-gr- grandfather from
> the Spaight's Regiment of Texas Infantry.
> Joseph W. HOLMES enlisted on Nov. 1st, 1862
>
> I uderstand that his brothers; Thomas, WHJ, and Claiborne HOLMES were
> already serving in this same Regiment.
> My nephew owns the original Document.
> Irene HOLMES WALTON
> Nacogdoches, TX
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> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:29:14 -0500
> From: "John P Pate" <>
> Subject: Re: [11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION] 11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION Digest, Vol
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> Do you have anymore details on him? Where is he buried?
>
> Anyway you can e-mail me a copy of the discharge?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
> One died for your soul
> The other for your freedoms
> God Bless Jesus Christ and the American Military
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Joe
> Walton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:54 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION] 11TH-TEXAS-BATTALION Digest, Vol
> 2,Issue
> 9
>
> I have a photo of the Discharge paper of my gr-gr- grandfather from
> the Spaight's Regiment of Texas Infantry.
> Joseph W. HOLMES enlisted on Nov. 1st, 1862
>
> I uderstand that his brothers; Thomas, WHJ, and Claiborne HOLMES were
> already serving in this same Regiment.
> My nephew owns the original Document.
> Irene HOLMES WALTON
> Nacogdoches, TX
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> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:21 -0500
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> http://www.spaightsbattalion.org/HolmesJosephW.htm
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> Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
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> God Bless Jesus Christ and the American Military
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